IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING March 18th, 1993 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us. ATTENDEES --------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Crocker, Dave / SGI Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI IAB Liaison Chapin, Lyman / BBN Christian Huitema / INRIA Regrets Borman, David / Cray Research Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore AGENDA ------ 1. Administrivia o Roll Call o Bash the Agenda o Approval of minutes - Feb 22nd - Mar 1st - Mar 8th 2. Protocol Actions o RFC 1327 tutorial o NOC Tools revisited 3. DRAFT Protocols Expired in Grade o The Finger User Information Protocol o Telnet Linemode Option o NICNAME/WHOIS o Bootstrap Protocol 4. PROPOSED Protocols Expired in Grade o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks o Use of OSI IS-IS for Routing in TCP/IP and Dual Environments o Network News Transfer Protocol 5. Working Group Actions o Authentication and Access Control o Mail and Directory Management o Source Demand Routing 6. Tasked Items o RPC & NFS o IP Security Working Group Charter o IP Address Guidelines A/S o WAR with RIP o RIP A/S o Revised IPLPDN Working Group Charter 7. Management Issues o US vs International Domains o Status of SAAG o Co-Area Director for Security o The RFC1154 issue o Compressing TCP/IP Headers o New Working Group Chairman Orientation MINUTES -------- 1) Administrivia o Approval of the Minutes The IESG approved the minutes of the February 22nd, the March 1st, and the March 8th Teleconferences. o Next Meeting The IESG next plans to meet informally over dinner at the IETF Plenary. 2) Protocol Actions o RFC 1327 Tutorial This document was submitted to the IESG for consideration as an Informational document a bit pre-maturely. The Area Director has reviewed the document and has suggested several changes including a revision to the title. This item will be listed as "WG-DISCUSS" until a new document is submitted. o NOC Tools The NOC Tools Catalogue was approved by the IESG earlier as an Informational document. After the approval, and before publication, several additions were gathered. The IESG was asked whether the changes should be made to the document or whether original document should be published. The NOC Tools Catalogue is one of several living documents that is updated regularly. Rather than revise the document after the IESG has approved it, the IESG recommends publication of an update document listing the new entries. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the IESG recommends he publish the NOC Tools document as initially submitted and make any additions in a separate addendum document. 3) Draft Standard Protocols Expired in Grade The IESG briefly reviewed the status of the Draft Standard Protocols which have been Proposed Standards for more than 2 years to determine of IESG action is needed or whether any extensions granted earlier are still valid. o Finger User Information Protocol This protocol was revised since being elevated to Draft Standard. The revisions were made to make the documentation align more closely to the implemented protocol. The IESG should consider its status. ACTION: Hobby -- Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of Finger to full Standard. o Telnet Linemode Option This Telnet Option has been widely implemented and operationally deployed. Its status will be reviewed by the IESG. ACTION: Hobby - Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of the Telnet Linemode Option to Full Standard. o NICNAME/WHOIS The IESG earlier reviewed this protocol and found the documentation to be lacking. The current document is little more than the description of a specific service offered by the DDN NIC at one time. The Whois and Network Information Lookup Service Working Group is tasked to produce a new protocol document. No actions needed at this time. o Bootstrap Protocol Some additions to the BOOTP Protocol is being contemplated as part of the Dynamic Host Configuration effort. The IESG will consider the status of this protocol when the Dynamic Host configuration work is submitted to the IESG. No further action is needed at this time. 4) Proposed Standard Protocols Expired in Grade These protocols have been Proposed Standards for more than two years. o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks The IESG knew little of the status of this protocol, and committed to reviewing its status. ACTION: Knowles or Piscitello -- Review the IP over ARCnet protocol and determine if it meets the requirements for Draft Standard status. o Use of OSI IS-IS for Routing in TCP/IP and Dual Environments A revision of RFC 1195 has been posted and work is continuing to implement and deploy the protocol. The chairman of this working group is unable to continue his service and a new chairman is being sought. This protocols should be reviewed by the IESG ACTION: Hinden -- Investigate the status of the Dual IS-IS protocol. Report on whether an extension should be granted. o Network News Transfer Protocol The NNTP Protocol is being revised in the NNTP Working Group. It is not clear whether the new protocol should be considered an update or whether it is a new protocol. If the later, the original NNTP should be reviewed for advancement independently of the current revisions. ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the NNTP Protocol as defined in RFC 977 and report on whether the protocol should be evaluated independently of the current protocol developments in the working group. 5) Working Group Action o Authorization and Access Control (aac) The IESG continues to have questions about the relationship of IP Security, Common Authentication Technology, and this proposed group. A brief document relating these efforts was requested of the Security Area Director. ACTION: SCrocker produce a short document describing the relationship between the IP Security, AAC, and CAT Working Groups and how they relate to the Internet security problem space. o Mail and Directory Management (madman) The charter is under active discussion. A new version is expected from Steve Kille. Participation in the charter drafting was explicitly requested of Dave Crocker. o Source Demand Routing. The Source Demand Routing Charter was recast to produce a prototype protocol initially. After the significant issues surrounding dynamic construction of source routes is resolved, the work will more to proposed standard. The IESG approved this Working Group. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Source Demand Routing Working Group. 6) Tasked Items Only the tasked items with some information to report are listed below. o IP Addressing The first draft of the IP Addressing Applicability Statement was written by Yakov Rekhter and Tony Li for the IESG. ACTION: Gross, Hinden -- Review the draft Applicability Statement and after making any necessary changes post it as an Internet Draft. o RPC-NFS There continues to be no progress to report. The IESG agreed that the NFS and RPC documents will move to historic state regardless of whether SUN agrees to participate in an open process to define accurate new specifications. The question is on of timing and the IESG agreed to wait another two weeks before taking this action. 7) Management Issues o US and Regional ADMD Guidelines The X.400 Operations Working Group is contemplating a proposed standard for the assignment of ADMDs in the US. This assignment strategy is applicable to other nations. The IESG recommends that this document be an developed as an Informational policy implementation guideline and not a standard. ACTION: Huizer -- Advise the X.400 Operations Working Group that the IESG feels the X.400 ADMD assignment document should be an Informational implementation guidelines rather than standard. o New Working Group chairman briefing. The IESG agreed that the new Working Group Chairman orientation was a good idea. Without a syllabus, it was not clear the IESG should require attendance for new (or even some old-timers!). ACTION: DCrocker -- Prepare a syllabus for the New Working Group chairman briefing and distribute to the IESG as soon before the IETF meeting as possible. o Status of the SAAG Steve Crocker related the history of the SAAG to the IESG and explained that the original mission of the SAAG, security education and guidance, does not quite satisfy the needs for an Area Directorate. The IESG agreed that the SAAG could be refocused on the protocol review and technical advisory missions that directorates have grown to meet. o New Version of IP There was not much information sent to the Internet Area Director on the current implementation experience for the proposed sucessors to the IP v4 protocol. Appendix - Summary of Action Items Assigned ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the IESG recommends he publish the NOC Tools document as initially submitted and make any additions in a separate addendum document. ACTION: Hobby -- Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of Finger to full Standard. ACTION: Hobby - Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of the Telnet Linemode Option to Full Standard ACTION: Knowles or Piscitello -- Review the IP over ARCnet protocol and determine if it meets the requirements for Draft Standard status. ACTION: Hinden -- Investigate the status of the Dual IS-IS protocol. Report on whether an extension should be granted. ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the NNTP Protocol as defined in RFC 977 and report on whether the protocol should be evaluated independently of the current protocol developments in the working group. ACTION: SCrocker produce a short document describing the relationship between the IP Security, AAC, and CAT Working Groups and how they relate to the Internet security problem space. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Source Demand Routing Working Group. ACTION: Gross, Hinden -- Review the draft Applicability Statement and after making any necessary changes post it as an Internet Draft. ACTION: Huizer -- Advise the X.400 Operations Working Group that the IESG feels the X.400 ADMD assignment document should be an Informational implementation guidelines rather than standard. ACTION: DCrocker -- Prepare a syllabus for the New Working Group chairman briefing and distribute to the IESG as soon before the IETF meeting as possible.