IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING February 22nd, 1993 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us. ATTENDEES --------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Chapin, Lyman / BBN Crocker, Dave / TBO Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Borman, David / Cray Research Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Reynolds, Joyce / ISI AGENDA ------ 1) Administrivia o Role Call o Bash the Agenda o Approval of the Minutes - February 1st - February 8th 2) Protocol Actions o Directed ARP o NFS o RPC o IP Address Guidelines o X.500 DUA Metrics o Noop Tools RFC 3) Technical management issues o Nomination Committee Clarification o Network Management Area o SNMP o RIP Applicability Statement o Wide Area Routing with RIP o Delegation of Naming Authority for the US Domain 4) RFC Editor Actions o SNMP Over Foo Documents 5) Working Group Actions o IP Security (ipsec) o Integrated Directory Services (ids) o Training Materials (trainmat) o Remote Conferencing (remconf) o Secure FTP MINUTES -------- 1) Administrivia o Approval of the Minutes The minutes from the Teleconferences of February 1st and February 8th were approved. o Next Meeting The next IESG teleconference was scheduled for March 1st, from 11:30 to 1:30 ET. 2) Protocol Actions o Directed ARP After consulting with the IPLPDN Working Group, it is clear this protocol is a product of that group. The proposal suffers from several technical flaws and the IESG was concerned that there is no specific interest in actually implementing and experimenting with this protocol. Acknowledging these shortcomings, the IESG approved this protocol for publication as Experimental. This protocol will clearly need additional work should it be proposed for standardization. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the approval of the Directed ARP specification as an Experimental Protocol. The IESG discussed the general case where a IETF Working Group may produce a specification for experimentation which has significant shortcomings. POSITION: A protocol which is intended to be experimental may be published as a IETF Working Group product even with known technical deficiencies. o NFS/RPC There is no action to report. o IP Addressing Guidelines Progress is being made on preparing the CIDR document set. The IESG was reminded that it is responsible for an Applicability Statement (AS) for CIDR. ACTION: Gross, Hinden: Write the Applicability Statement for CIDR. o X.500 DUA Metrics The IESG had no objection to the publication of this document as an informational product of the OSIDS Working Group. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the acceptance of the X.500 DUA Metrics document as an Informational document. o Tools RFC The IESG discussed this Network OSI Operations Working Group document. The document is partly a requirements document and partly a NOC Tools style catalogue of tools necessary to operate a CLNP internet. It was noted that this work would be a good candidate for a proposed standard "CLNP requirements" document. The title needs to be revised before it can be published as an RFC. ACTION: Vaudreuil - Request clarification from the Working Group chairman about the nature of this document. Communicate the IESG sense that this would be a good basis of a requirements document. 3) Technical Management Issues o Nomination Committee Request The IESG nomination committee requested clarification on an earlier IESG discussion as to whether the IESG facilitator and the IETF chairman should be the same person. The IESG discussed this and agreed that the IETF chairman should remain the chairman of the IESG. Secretariat help is available to delegate specific tasks as the chairman requires. POSITION: IESG chairman should be the IETF chairman. Secretariat help is available as needed and as delegated by the IETF chairman. ACTION: Coya - Further ponder the role of the IESG facilitator WRT to the IETF Secretariat and report thoughts to the IESG. o Network Management Area With the resignation of Chuck Davin, the IESG is without a Network Management Area Director. Besides the ongoing work on SNMP Evolution, there are a collection of MIBs that require review and processing for advancement. The IESG agreed that the IESG should be able to cover for the Network Management Area Director and should not wait for a new Area Director. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Investigate the current status of the Network Management Area Directorate and investigate the process by which the various MIBS can be reviewed. o SNMP Version2 The SNMP Version 2 protocol is nearing completion and is expected to be submitted to the IESG before Columbus. There continues to be a degree of controversy over the process and to a lesser degree the content of the protocol. ACTION: SCrocker, Piscitello - Poll the SNMP community for feedback on the process of SNMP Evolution. Report to the IESG. Two documents are of low quality and need to be rewritten, however the IESG was willing to allow the current documents to progress provided they are re-written before advancement to Draft Standard. o RIP Applicability Statement. No action to report. o Wide Area Routing with RIP No action to report o Delegation of Naming Authority for the US Domain Discussion on the delegation of authority for the US domain was deferred. 4) RFC Editor Actions o SNMP over Multi-Protocols There was no objection from the working group or authors to the elimination of the text in each referring to SNMP Security. ACTION: Piscitello - Communicate to the RFC Editor the IESG willingness to have the SNMP over Foo documents edited before publication to eliminate the SNMP Security references. 5) Working Group Actions o IP Security No Progress to Report o Integrated Directory Services (ids) The formation of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group was approved by the IESG. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group. o Network Training Materials (trainmat) The formation of the Training Materials Working Group was approved by the IESG. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Network Training Materials Working Group. o Remote Conferencing The Remote Conferencing work is being carried out in several single focus working groups. As additional requirements arise other Working Groups will be formed. No further action is required. o Secure FTP It is not clear whether this effort should be chartered in the Applications or Security Area. While the focus is intended to be on security aspects, other changes to FTP are possible and should be coordinated in the Applications Area. No resolution was reached in the short time this was discussed. Appendix -- Summary of Action Items Assigned ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the approval of the Directed ARP specification as an Experimental Protocol. ACTION: Gross, Hinden: Write the Applicability Statement for CIDR. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the acceptance of the X.500 DUA Metrics document as an Informational document. ACTION: Vaudreuil - Request clarification from the Working Group chairman about the nature of this document. Communicate the IESG sense that this would be a good basis of a requirements document. ACTION: Coya - Further ponder the role of the IESG facilitator WRT to the IETF Secretariat and report thoughts to the IESG. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Investigate the current status of the Network Management Area Directorate and investigate the process by which the various MIBS can be reviewed. ACTION: SCrocker, Piscitello - Poll the SNMP community for feedback on the process of SNMP Evolution. Report to the IESG. ACTION: Piscitello - Communicate to the RFC Editor the IESG willingness to have the SNMP over Foo documents edited before publication to eliminate the SNMP Security references. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Network Training Materials Working Group. Appendix - Summary of Positions Taken POSITION: A protocol which is intended to be experimental may be published as a IETF Working Group product even with known technical deficiencies. POSITION: IESG chairman should be the IETF chairman. Secretariat help is available as needed and as delegated by the IETF chairman.